Do you double this?
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Will you take the money? Double Notrump?
#2
Posted 2012-December-16, 17:55
No. Given the circumstances I will bid 2♠ a reversw, and forcing on partner. better way to show my approximate shape.
I intend to rebid ♦ inless partner raises or bids ♥s.
If partner introduces ♣ i will rebid the minimum number of ♦ possible.
Partner doesn't need much for 6 in a pointed suit to be possible.
I prefer to open this 2♣.
I strongly prefer to open this 1♣ precision....
I intend to rebid ♦ inless partner raises or bids ♥s.
If partner introduces ♣ i will rebid the minimum number of ♦ possible.
Partner doesn't need much for 6 in a pointed suit to be possible.
I prefer to open this 2♣.
I strongly prefer to open this 1♣ precision....
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#3
Posted 2012-December-16, 18:14
SteveMoe, on 2012-December-16, 17:55, said:
No. Given the circumstances I will bid 2♠ a reversw, and forcing on partner. better way to show my approximate shape.
I prefer to open this 2♣.
I strongly prefer to open this 1♣ precision....
I prefer to open this 2♣.
I strongly prefer to open this 1♣ precision....
Because you're going to so enjoy bidding this over 1/2♣-3♣-P/X-5♣, get a suit into the auction early, you really want partner to bid the right suit next. Particularly important if you're playing a real diamond in an Acol context.
And 2♠ cannot be forcing on partner if 1♦ wasn't. What do you want him to do with xxx, xxxx, x, xxxxx.
#4
Posted 2012-December-16, 18:15
Lord Molyb, on 2012-December-16, 17:49, said:
Do you double this?
How do you know there is money to take? I would bid 2S here.
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#5
Posted 2012-December-16, 18:58
Partner may easily have 5H (even if ruffing with a H honnor might not be fun), so double of 1Nt followed by takeout of clubs (available for most people) make more sense. If the double of clubs is penalty you can still bid 2S.
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For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
#7
Posted 2012-December-17, 00:38
Cyberyeti, on 2012-December-16, 18:14, said:
Because you're going to so enjoy bidding this over 1/2♣-3♣-P/X-5♣, get a suit into the auction early, you really want partner to bid the right suit next. Particularly important if you're playing a real diamond in an Acol context.
And 2♠ cannot be forcing on partner if 1♦ wasn't. What do you want him to do with xxx, xxxx, x, xxxxx.
And 2♠ cannot be forcing on partner if 1♦ wasn't. What do you want him to do with xxx, xxxx, x, xxxxx.
Cyberyeti,
Thanks. Since partner passed, I agree 2♠ cannot be forcing. That 1♦ is not forcing is irrelevant (see 1♦-P-1♠-P-2♥ = GF, though 1♦ is not forcing). With the hand you show, partner should pass.
Over 2♣-3♣-dbl-[5cl] I can afford 5♦ with little downside.
Over 2♣-3♣-Pass-[5cl] I can bid 5N pick a slam.
nige1, on 2012-December-16, 19:14, said:
IMO 2♠ = 10, 2N (Art force) = 9, 2♦ = 8, Double = 7.
Had the bidding started 1♣* (Pass) 1♦* (1N**)
* = Precision
^^ = Natural
You seem to be even worse placed. [/hv]
Nige1, I might have missed something but 1♦-P-P-1N = 10-14 balanced and does not promise a stopper.
In Precision, after 1♣-P-1♦ I do not think 1N is likely. Assuming 1N is bid, then I would venture a 3♦ bid.
Be the partner you want to play with.
Trust demands integrity, balance and collaboration.
District 11
Unit 124
Steve Moese
Trust demands integrity, balance and collaboration.
District 11
Unit 124
Steve Moese
#8
Posted 2012-December-17, 00:59
SteveMoe, on 2012-December-17, 00:38, said:
Thanks. Since partner passed, I agree 2♠ cannot be forcing. That 1♦ is not forcing is irrelevant (see 1♦-P-1♠-P-2♥ = GF, though 1♦ is not forcing).
The two auctions aren't analogous. Your partner has already shown values when you reverse (which isn't game forcing), so it makes sense that your hand could be now worth driving to game given the new information. Here, your partner has passed so you have no more expectation of being able to make game than before. As a result, you can't really have a hand that would have opened 1♦ but now wants to force.
#9
Posted 2012-December-17, 04:29
sfi, on 2012-December-17, 00:59, said:
The two auctions aren't analogous. Your partner has already shown values when you reverse (which isn't game forcing), so it makes sense that your hand could be now worth driving to game given the new information. Here, your partner has passed so you have no more expectation of being able to make game than before. As a result, you can't really have a hand that would have opened 1♦ but now wants to force.
Well that saves me typing exactly the same response.
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Over 2♣-3♣-dbl-[5cl] I can afford 5♦ with little downside.
Over 2♣-3♣-Pass-[5cl] I can bid 5N pick a slam.
Over 2♣-3♣-Pass-[5cl] I can bid 5N pick a slam.
Yes I'm sure you'll enjoy playing 5♦ opposite Jxxx, J10xxx, x, Qxx and 6 of anything opposite xxxx, Jxxx, xx, KQx, opening 1♦ and making a ToX later works much better.
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Lord Molybasks "Do you double this?
IMO 2♠ = 10, 2N (Art force) = 9, 2♦ = 8, Double = 7.
Had the bidding started 1♣* (Pass) 1♦* (1N**)
* = Precision
^^ = Natural
You seem to be even worse placed.