What will you bid now? Your bidding is consistent with a variety of weak hands with a singleton diamond a swell as wk nt hands and 5422. You have denied 6h unless poor and 3s over 3c would indicate worry.
What to bid The Scottish trials
#1
Posted 2012-September-25, 03:05
What will you bid now? Your bidding is consistent with a variety of weak hands with a singleton diamond a swell as wk nt hands and 5422. You have denied 6h unless poor and 3s over 3c would indicate worry.
#2
Posted 2012-September-25, 03:12
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#3
Posted 2012-September-25, 04:31
Roland
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More system is not the answer...
#4
Posted 2012-September-25, 05:10
#5
Posted 2012-September-25, 08:22
-gwnn
#6
Posted 2012-September-25, 08:31
and some useful values, if partner is slam interested.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#7
Posted 2012-September-25, 08:47
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KJT9x
#8
Posted 2012-September-25, 09:04
#9
Posted 2012-September-25, 09:11
ArtK78, on 2012-September-25, 08:47, said:
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AKQJxx
KJT9x
My view is that if I were your partner and heard/saw your 4♠ cue, I'd place you with 4=5=1=3, which may lead to an embarrassing result.
I don't see the rush to leave partner guessing about trump.
We have a super hand on the auction: we hold a control-rich 14, and we have the great club Q and the potentially useful diamond 10, and we have already shown a minimum with major suit wastage, so we can gleefully see our hand as being about the best it could be on the auction so far.
Thus I reject the natural 4N, and make the bid that is most likely to lay the foundation for a successful slam/grand slam try....4♦.
Partner will hold at least one major control on the auction, tho it may be a shortness control. Thus he will be able to bid 4♥ (a rare instance in which bidding a shortness control as one's first cue makes sense) either as a control or, if the methods permit, a generic last train cue. Either way, my 4♠ gets us back to where the immediate 4♠ cuebidders would have us, with the advantage that partner knows we are 4=5=2=2 with a working hand. We can't be 4=5=3=1 since we would bid 3♦ over 3♣. We can't have 6♥ because we are showing slam interest, and we would have shown the 6th heart earlier with a hand worth a slam try now (see OP).
I will respect a 5♦ signoff over 4♦, but I don't expect to hear it.
I see Zelandakh beat me to the criticism that 4♠ agrees clubs: brevity is often the soul of wit.
#10
Posted 2012-September-25, 09:23
#11
Posted 2012-September-25, 09:26
#12
Posted 2012-September-25, 09:43
JLOGIC, on 2012-September-25, 09:23, said:
I agree that driving to slam is too much, but how can this be a horrible hand?
The OP said that we have shown a minimum via 2♥. We hold a heck of a good minimum unless our first name is either Alvin or Tobias.
We then bid a regressive 3N, announcing no spade doubt, so probably a double stopper there.
We have bid precisely as we would have had we been AQJx KQxxx xx xx, or at least that is my take on the OP comments.
I am not sure what changes you'd make to our current hand in order for us to feel good about it on the auction to date. Surely our 4♦ strongly suggests 4=5=2=2 with the sort of working card count we hold?
#13
Posted 2012-September-25, 09:54
mikeh, on 2012-September-25, 09:43, said:
This is correct, but you might also have bid this way with:
AQxx Axxxx x Qxx.
For the record: 4H and 4S would be cues agreeing clubs.
#14
Posted 2012-September-25, 10:19
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♦Akxxxx
♣Akxxx
And maybe partner is slightly better than that.
Four Spades definitely agrees clubs as far as I am concerned. And Four No Trumps is out, because we often go off with Five Diamonds cold.
#15
Posted 2012-September-25, 10:31
#16
Posted 2012-September-25, 11:19
- billw55
#17
Posted 2012-September-25, 16:00
this mainly becasue i do not want p to get excited about the possibility we
might have almost no wasted values in hearts (which is what i would be saying
if i were to bid 4s or a 5c/5d bid). P will pretty much know our compete distribution and the
fact that we didnt feel our hand was as bad as it could be. If p wishes to
explore further i doubt our hand will be a huge disappointment.
Do not get me wrong this hand is very close to a 4n bid but the AK of spades
could easily be the difference btn slam or not. I would save 4n for something like
KQJx KQJxx xx xx
#18
Posted 2012-September-25, 18:10
#19
Posted 2012-September-25, 23:42
And gave 5c another envisaging that partner would have three clubs to an honour.
They led a spade, and so I discarded my heart and played on diamonds. Everything was friendly so I made six clubs. But the auction didn't feel very satisfactory. ATB?
#20
Posted 2012-September-26, 22:19