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How to avoid the slam It fails due to 4-1 break and the trump jack on the long side

#1 User is offline   mikl_plkcc 

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Posted 2012-July-10, 07:45

South dealt:



Using standard methods, we found that only a first round control was missing, so we also land on 6, in fact, most of the field landed on 6, and all -1. Only the few pairs who stopped at 4 got good results.

Is it possible to avoid bidding the slam?
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Posted 2012-July-10, 09:29

You don't even improve your score by bidding 6 or 6N by south which are better practical contracts than 6 by N.

Who dealt ?

It's easy enough to work out from S's point of view that N doesn't have A or a singleton, but being sure he doesn't have the Q is more awkward.

With S as dealer (we play a weak no trump which we will open with 5M but S is clearly too good, and 10+ 2/1s not GF)

1-2
2N(GF)-3
3-4
?

Now it looks like N has 5-5 in the reds with 2 or 3 clubs without the A, so should you sign off as if he doesn't have the Q, club lead is marked and the contract won't be better than 50-50, or do you go on ? With 3 small hearts, I think I sign off.

With N as dealer

1-1
3(2 good suits, not an enormous hand, better versions go via the GF 2N or 2 rebid which is all but forcing)-4

partner really can't have enough after the 3 bid as he won't have the same hand with 3 spades and no clubs.
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Posted 2012-July-10, 09:32

They will often lead a black suit so it is not really a bad slam. Also when the AQ of clubs are off they will often double a club cuebid.
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Posted 2012-July-10, 21:08

View PostCyberyeti, on 2012-July-10, 09:29, said:

You don't even improve your score by bidding 6 or 6N by south which are better practical contracts than 6 by N.

Who dealt ?



South dealt, we played at 6N, also -1.
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