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I need help i hope is possible 5°Major diamond 4°

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Posted 2012-May-26, 08:30

5°Major diamond 4°

1° Hand


What do now south; i think for slam or if my patner have Q but how better bid?
2° Hand



South wath bid? i think maeby at slam at , but how bid for ask more? or is better 4 and no slam?

3°Hand



is better south reopen in double or better pass?

Ty at all for help and sorry if i ask at expert but i' m in trouble. Sorry too for no correct english. :)
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Posted 2012-May-26, 08:54

1) I think it is safer to be in Clubs, since they are in danger of being ruffed if Diam are trump .

2) 4S ( only way to get tricks with little Spades )
[ If partner has a rounded Q, then 3NT might work ] .
[ I think slam is totally out of the picture; OK, opener with A K x x x x x and split 3-3 and split w/Q onsides].

3) pass
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Posted 2012-May-26, 09:55

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2012-May-26, 08:54, said:

1) I think it is safer to be in Clubs, since they are in danger of being ruffed if Diam are trump .

2) 4S ( only way to get tricks with little Spades )
[ If partner has a rounded Q, then 3NT might work ] .
[ I think slam is totally out of the picture; OK, opener with A K x x x x x and split 3-3 and split w/Q onsides].

3) pass

then on 1° hand i bid 5 and my patner get decision?
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Posted 2012-May-26, 14:57

1) 6 clubs

2) 4 NT

3) pass


Don't really think any of them are close. Partner raised clubs at the 5 level on the first board, he doesn't need the club Q. On the second, 3S red ought to be a decent suit, might as well ask for keycards, 5 level is probably safe regardless. Third board, pass is a standout, you could try 2S if you were feeling lucky, but it's not a percentage call I dont think.
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Posted 2012-May-26, 16:05

1. This one is tough. I am not sure if we can defeat 6 more than one trick, so I could see myself passing here, of course bidding 6 over 5. For them it should be easy to spot the big double fit and bid on. Against very conservative or weaker opponents I will bid 6 and hope they let me play there.

2.4 Anything else would be ridiculous.

3.Very close, with the 10 of I would certainly X. There is a good chance that lead is the only one to beat it. I don't think they will ever redouble me, -180 is not the end of the world...... With my actual holding I really dont know, I have support for any suit my partner leads...
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Posted 2012-May-26, 16:18

On hand one, 5N could (arguably) be interpreted as pick a slam
If you're really worried about strain, this might be best.

Personally, I favor 6C because suppressing the Diamond fit might help avoid a Diamond ruff.

On hand two, pass or 4 both seems reasonable
Partner's hand could easily be worth zero tricks in NT
I know partner opened a vulnerable 3S, but I'm not sure he has a suit that is going to produce 5 winners (or not have 4 losers)
I'd probably bid 4S, but I wouldn't fault a pass

I'd pass on hand 3
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Posted 2012-May-26, 16:48

IMO
  • 5 = 10, 5 = 9, 5N = 8, 6/ = 7, Pass = 6.
  • 4 = 10, 5 = 9.
  • Double = 10, pass = 6.

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Posted 2012-May-26, 22:18

6C
4S
Pass.
All of these are obvious in my opinion.Lol at making a slam try on the second board.
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Posted 2012-May-27, 04:09

1. - "What they call an 8 card suit? TRUMPS" - we have at least 11 clubs between us, Q is irrelevant - if anything i hope partner doesn't have it - its wasted values, and may be the opponent holding it will like his hand less :). 6 for me - I would bid 5 to keep grand in the picture, but that would make it very easy for opps to locate a 9 card fit in hearts and compete to 6, while the grand is very unlikely.

2. Sitting with similar hand once, I was thinking that the worst thing my p could open is 1, then she opened 2.....
4, and hope he makes it.

3. Will double ask lead? If yes I would dbl, if not pass.
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Posted 2012-May-27, 07:19

1.
6c
7c is certainly within reach and it might seem perfectly reasonable
to search for a grand here but do we have the tools to do it safely???
If we bid 5h (IMO best for grand search) and p bid 5s how do we ask p
to bid 7 with dia AK?? I dont know and if we were to bid 5n telling p
we were still interested in a grand how would p know the dia A was not
sufficient??? Taking this into consideration the best bid would be a
simple 6c bid since we are going to be on lead anyway (if the opps
sacrifice) and no benefit can be gained from a 5h bid. Sometimes
preempts work do the best you can.

2.
5s
P should have decent spades for their VUL/NV 3s bid. If P has great spades
only a dia lead could pose problems to 6 and that's a reasonable gamble.
5s here (cant possibly be a preempt) is asking p to bid slam with a max
1 loser spade suit (KQJTxxx). If you meekly bid 4s you are showing little
confidence in p 3s bid.

3.
pass
Once you do not bid 1n directly over 1s (a very reasonable decision) you
have nowhere else to go at this point. A x here is to for the other two
suits in po seat not asking for a spade lead. If your p agreement is to
not let the opps play 1n then you have to x hoping against hope that
p bids hearts (or even 2/3d). If p bids 2c your partnership agreement must
be that 2s is to play at this point. If p bids 3c (ackkkk) your guess to
p or bid 3n is all you have left choose wisely.
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Posted 2012-May-27, 15:52

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2012-May-26, 08:54, said:

1) I think it is safer to be in Clubs, since they are in danger of being ruffed if Diam are trump .

2) 4S ( only way to get tricks with little Spades )
[ If partner has a rounded Q, then 3NT might work ] .
[ I think slam is totally out of the picture; OK, opener with A K x x x x x and split 3-3 and split w/Q onsides].

3) pass




on 1° hand, you say that if play 6d is danger for a ruff, but east must lead and maeby not have clubs because cue bid 5c then how lead for allow the patner ruff c? And if i play trumps clubs and not diamond,west could have Qxx clubs and i loose 1s and Qc no in impass. What say?
Ty and sorry for my bad english :)
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Posted 2012-May-28, 17:59

View Postdeep, on 2012-May-27, 15:52, said:

on 1° hand, you say that if play 6d is danger for a ruff, but east must lead and maeby not have clubs because cue bid 5c then how lead for allow the patner ruff c? And if i play trumps clubs and not diamond,west could have Qxx clubs and i loose 1s and Qc no in impass. What say?
Ty and sorry for my bad english :)



p bid 5c i think it is hugely unreasonbale to assume p will raise you to
5c with xxx :))))))))))))))))))) worring about such a slim % chance will
cause you to use wayyyy too much anti acid during your bridge career.
and if Qxx is offside (assuming p raised to with xxx --now my stomach
is beginning to hurt---how do you avoid a club loser anyway:)))))))))
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Posted 2012-May-29, 03:01

  • 6. I don't know how to find out whether it's seven, so I'll settle for six.
  • 4. Given his preempt in second position at these colours, partner might just have what is needed for six. But I hate to hang partner...
  • double. Partner is supposed to lead spades.

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Posted 2012-May-29, 07:35

For the 2nd hand, I can't even think of bidding 4 because it would mean a further preempt in my system. I would just bid 3NT to play. (I would expect partner to have at least KQxxxxx in the suit as I normally play light preempts. If non-vulnerable at the 2nd seat, Qxxxxxx is already enough. If non-vulnerable at the 3rd seat, I would open 3 having no HCPs and a 7-card suit.)
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Posted 2012-May-29, 08:07

View Postmikl_plkcc, on 2012-May-29, 07:35, said:

For the 2nd hand, I can't even think of bidding 4 because it would mean a further preempt in my system. I would just bid 3NT to play. (I would expect partner to have at least KQxxxxx in the suit as I normally play light preempts.

Say partner does indeed have KQ and out with however many spades you require for a red preempt. How are you going to make 3NT? Yet 4 could easily be laydown. Bidding 3NT here is a serious mistake and not being allowed to bid 4 to play is, quite frankly, the worst bidding design decision I have heard in a long time. That's coming from someone who has LOTS of bad bidding ideas too.

I will go with 6, 4 and Pass. The second of these is the most difficult decision as the correct course of action depends to some extent on partner's preempting tendencies. If our 1st seat red preempts are sound then a slam move is not ridiculous.
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Posted 2012-May-29, 17:48

I would go with 6, 4 (pard's 3 should be no worse than -1 at these colors) and P...
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Posted 2012-May-30, 05:47

View Posthrothgar, on 2012-May-26, 16:18, said:

On hand two, pass or 4 both seems reasonable


I think that pass is absurd.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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