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Posted 2012-March-19, 20:18

Playing presion in a MP tournament with a solid pd, You sit in North,holding
S: K943
H: 97532
D: 4
C: 652

White all, Pd deals and opens 1C, West comes in with 1H, you pass, east passes too, pd rebid 2D, both west and you pass, East comes in again with 2H. Two passes to you. What do you do?

W N E S
- - - 1C!
1H P P 2D
P P 2H P
P ?
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Posted 2012-March-19, 20:32

Probably pass, but would like to know the vul...
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Posted 2012-March-19, 20:38

View PostStatto, on 2012-March-19, 20:32, said:

Probably pass, but would like to know the vul...

White all.
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Posted 2012-March-19, 20:41

I think partner would often double with some 3-1-6-3 (having already bid non forcing 2D he will not be afraid of us going crazy) so chances for him being 2-1-6-4 increased and opposite that hand being in 2S will be a disaster (and partner has no reason to remove our 2S). Double will land us in 3D most of the time and that's another thing we don't want.
So it seems like clear pass to me.
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Posted 2012-March-19, 20:50

View Postflytoox, on 2012-March-19, 20:38, said:

White all.

Pass, then. I might have tried 2 or X white v red.
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Posted 2012-March-19, 21:02

Pard definitely has short hearts but he didn't double or bid 3C or 3D. Like the other poster said he is very likely holding 2(0/1)(6/7)4.

Even without thinking about what partner holds, you could just go on instinct, thinking to yourself: "I love playing in my five-card suit, I love defending with singletons in partner's suit, I love it when an opponent's suit splits 4-2 with the 4 having the king and 9, partner hasn't bid a whole lot so I doubt we'll have game with my misfitting 3-count, I shall very happily pass"
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Posted 2012-March-19, 21:29

From my limited precision experience if partner had 4 spades he's going to re-open with double. If he even had 3 he would have probably stretched to do so the first time around. It would help here to know what the agreements in competition are, assuming a really simple new suit is game-force and double is 5-7 semi positive, P knows you are either a total bust or have a penalty double, so he would have tried to reopen with a double if plausible.

So I agree with bluecalm, partner is probably 2-1-6-4 and they have volunteered to play in a 4-3 fit when the hearts are breaking 5-1 rather than letting us play in our 6-1 diamond fit so let them have it.
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Posted 2012-March-20, 00:38

Yes, partner's failure to initially reopen with a double makes it extremely unattractive to act now. Pass.
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Posted 2012-March-20, 02:47

We have half the deck, the trumps split 5-0 or even 5-1, I have a singelton in partners main suit.
Can I double for penalties please?

We play Mps, not imps.

I would only pass, if I cannot double for penalties.
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Posted 2012-March-20, 02:56

View PostCodo, on 2012-March-20, 02:47, said:

We have half the deck, the trumps split 5-0 or even 5-1, I have a singelton in partners main suit.
Can I double for penalties please?

We play Mps, not imps.

I would only pass, if I cannot double for penalties.


Yes, then the question is, is dbl here T/O or for blood?
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