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Do you allow West's 4S bid?

#1 User is offline   BudH 

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Posted 2011-October-20, 11:30

Would you allow the 4S bid by West and if not, do you consider it "egregious"?

If you don't allow the 4S bid, what score would you assign to each pair? And how many victory points to each team?

ACBL Sectional Swiss
Board 10, both vulnerable, East dealer
Other table result: 4S West down 1, +100 North-South
Match result before this ruling: East-West won by 5 imps
20 victory point scale used
All players are advanced to expert level


1S=5+ spades
<br>East break in tempo after 4H

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Posted 2011-October-20, 11:52

All I know for sure is I shouldn't be on the AC. I would be prejudiced from the start against West. His pass of the 1/1 response was Club-level masterminding which caused the whole situation. Had he raised the first time, the problems would be for the opponents and for partner to handle, and no amount of tempo would have been useful information to him.
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Posted 2011-October-20, 13:34

It's a shame that EW appears to do better if you "rule against them" and disallow the 4 bid.
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Posted 2011-October-21, 01:21

There is a seperate forum for simple rulings you know. There's no reason to spam the A/E forum with this... :rolleyes:
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Posted 2011-October-21, 07:03

Is this BIT = "I have some (2DT) and now you, partner also know"
ever punished? Let this one go also. At least expect TD to be consistent.
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Posted 2011-October-21, 07:24

West is in receipt of UI that suggests 4 rather than the logical alternatives of double or pass. Even if the director rules that NS were not damaged, he may still consider a penalty against W for blatant use of UI. On rec.games.bridge, however, rhm points out that defenders have to drive out the A to prevent a competent declarer from making 4. Rainer explains that this is an unlikely defence. Hence the director should probably adjust to 4=.
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Posted 2011-October-21, 07:37

 BudH, on 2011-October-20, 11:30, said:

do you consider {the 4 bid} "egregious"?

Does this have any relevance in the rules of bridge?
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Posted 2011-October-21, 08:41

 Free, on 2011-October-21, 01:21, said:

There is a seperate forum for simple rulings you know. There's no reason to spam the A/E forum with this... :rolleyes:
I hope such posts aren't moved into Bluejak's fiefdom because I resent replies being deleted, without recourse.
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