zasanya, on 2011-May-21, 00:28, said:
My suggestion to use timing devices is not for making it better for spectators.It is based on the assumption that in any mind game the ability to work out a problem faster than the opponent should be rewarded.If it helps to make the game more marketable then its a bonus.
Apropos some of the issues raised by some of the knowledgeable posters
1) Introducing the clocks does not make it a new game.
2)Even in India, players bring their own clocks for chess tournaments.Its an investment of may be 100 dollars for a lifetime.So there need not be monetary difficulties.
3)If 3 minutes per deal is more reasonable .OK.The authorities may even make it 4-5 minute per person per deal ;OK.But all players must have equal time to start with.
4)The player who is to bid or to play a card simply does so and presses a button.The chess clock measures the time taken by a player to make his move.Here it will mean time taken to bid or play a card.For example suppose I am sitting east .North Calls and presses his button on the clock.My clock which was hitherto not ticking now starts .I call and after completing my call press the button to stop both clocks (so that time taken by me to ponder over my call is recorded) and push the tray .The volunteer starts South clock and so on. Seems workable.If a better measuring device is available it can be used.Easier done than said.
5)With chess clocks it is possible to use a large chunk of time in certain situations provided you judiciously use the total time at your disposal.I once thought for 1 hour on a single move and my total thinking time was 1 hour 20 minutes for making 36 moves.In bridge its different I agree which is why i suggest time at your disposal increases by a few seconds every time you make a move.
6)If the devices are to be used then they must be used at all major international/ national tournaments.However somebody has to make a start.
7)While a question is asked or being answered the clock is stopped.So nobody loses or gains time.I do not believe players at the highest level resort to cheating. If they do they will be caught.It will be easy to see if a player is asking frivolous questions or deliberately answering slowly to buy some time or not.
8)The penalty for overstepping the time limit should be imps or mps or whatever is the scoring method being used.
Let us discuss and not argue or ridicule.
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With all due respect, i have to disagree, and my reasons are;
- I already know and see players, who believes thinking more than 5 seconds will make them look bad, so they play a card without a plan. Sadly these same people take more time thinking after they already messed it up. As a bridge fan, I find this very frustrating already without the time restrictions.
-High level players already have a stress on them due to the stakes. Now it is even more because they all know every little mistake they do is being watched and commented online in front of thousands. And you wanna add a time stress on these players.
-Again, this is not chess where first 10-15 or so moves are made auto. One table can play a simple 4
♥ where they have a claim, while at the other table the player can be in 6
♥ trying to perform a Stripdoublecrisscross (or whatever name u wanna call) squeeze. On the other hand defenders will (usually) have faster game vs a slam or grandslam than those who are defending 1 nt or 2
♦.
-People play different systems, and different styles. Same board at one table goes 1NT-6NT while at the other table it may take very long due to relays, or one table recieves no competition by opps while it can be very difficult or easy for the other table when they are contested during the bidding.
- You can not reward a player, just because he made the same contract earlier than the other player, You would be killing bridge. Why ? Because the guy who played and also made the same contract but late may actually have taken a much better and superior line than the fast guy. You want to reward a player just because he doesnt have enough knowledge, talent, experience and took his finesse and made the game in 3 seconds while other one made it 3-4 mins later but against any dist. This must be a joke !
- We are living in 21st century, time and speed has been part of our life as well as source of the stress which it comes with. Bridge is a great game and has its natural stress level already, why try to add more stress to the game where it actually takes us away from daily life's stress and worries?
WHERE IS THE FIRE ?
EDIT: In order to reward time, u need to equal all the other variables, such as system, opponent contest, defense, lead etc etc, which is not possible, unless u make the tourney just like in GIB Duplicate events in BBO.