BBO Discussion Forums: would you balance? - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

  • 2 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

would you balance?

#1 User is offline   Yu18772 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 466
  • Joined: 2010-August-31
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Los Angeles

Posted 2011-April-26, 22:51

Vul agains NV playing at an average club level, IMP, LHO opened 1♦ which was passed to you.
♠AKQ2 ♥Q ♦AJT872 ♣97

Your bid?
Yehudit Hasin

"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
0

#2 User is offline   Foxx 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 338
  • Joined: 2003-February-15
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:La Jolla, California
  • Interests:Being quick, brown, and foxy; Jumping over lazy dogs

Posted 2011-April-26, 23:21

UGGGHH.

I hate collecting 50's on these kind of hands or missing vulnerable games, but any positive move we make could send the auction out of hand. Plus, E-W could have a good heart (or club) fit for all we know.

I suppose I would pass. Not happy about it at all.
0

#3 User is offline   whereagles 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 14,900
  • Joined: 2004-May-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portugal
  • Interests:Everything!

Posted 2011-April-27, 04:44

Pard is a heavy favorite to be singleton in diamonds, but he didn't overcall or dbl, so he's kind of broke.

It's a near-certainty LHO has a balanced hand with 4 diamonds, so he might be 12-14 or 18-19. In the first case you may or may not have game on; in the later case, you should definitely pass.

I didn't ran a sim, but odds seem to hint at passing.
0

#4 User is offline   tappstein 

  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1
  • Joined: 2004-October-17

Posted 2011-April-27, 05:14

Five loser hand. Spades is a biddable suit at the one level. Bid one spade and maybe a two diamond bid is in the future.Definitely has defensive potential, but has offensive potential as well. I like to dribble and shot better than all the pushing and shoving.Not a believer of playing defense at the one level.
0

#5 User is offline   Hanoi5 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 4,082
  • Joined: 2006-August-31
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Santiago, Chile
  • Interests:Bridge, Video Games, Languages, Travelling.

Posted 2011-April-27, 06:00

I would pass. Partner obviously didn't pass with the diamond stack, they may have a better fit and opener extras (or the hand might just be a horrible misfit).

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


My YouTube Channel
0

#6 User is offline   Free 

  • mmm Duvel
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,728
  • Joined: 2003-July-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Belgium
  • Interests:Duvel, Whisky

Posted 2011-April-27, 06:22

Pass. Partner with short ♦ didn't bid anything, so I guess it's better to try to defeat this instead of pushing them in a better contract.
"It may be rude to leave to go to the bathroom, but it's downright stupid to sit there and piss yourself" - blackshoe
0

#7 User is offline   han 

  • Under bidder
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,797
  • Joined: 2004-July-25
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Amsterdam, the Netherlands

Posted 2011-April-27, 08:37

This seems a really obvious pass to me.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
1

#8 User is offline   quiddity 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,099
  • Joined: 2008-November-21

Posted 2011-April-27, 08:42

1♠
0

#9 User is offline   gszes 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,660
  • Joined: 2011-February-12

Posted 2011-April-27, 09:10

MP PASS (most positve scores keep one from getting a zero and sometimes work out nicely)
IMP cant ignore spade game need as little as xxxx Axxx Q xxxx have to bid 1S too much
risk of missing game with passs
0

#10 User is offline   Yu18772 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 466
  • Joined: 2010-August-31
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Los Angeles

Posted 2011-April-27, 21:25

tnx for replies - just for the record I passed, we scored 200 (sub optimal declarer play). Pard had xxxx, Kxxxx, x, Axx.......Posted Image dummy had Q♣ and 9x♦.
Yehudit Hasin

"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
0

#11 User is offline   dake50 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,211
  • Joined: 2006-April-22

Posted 2011-April-27, 22:05

If I pass, partner has S:9xxxx H:xxx D:- C:AQxxx.
4S looks playable.
If I bid 1S, he has S:xx H:A9xxx D:x C:9xxxx.
Even low partial fails.
I'm always lucky, I bid 1S.
0

#12 User is offline   Yu18772 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 466
  • Joined: 2010-August-31
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Los Angeles

Posted 2011-April-28, 00:03

View Postdake50, on 2011-April-27, 22:05, said:

If I pass, partner has S:9xxxx H:xxx D:- C:AQxxx.
4S looks playable.
If I bid 1S, he has S:xx H:A9xxx D:x C:9xxxx.
Even low partial fails.
I'm always lucky, I bid 1S.



My 50% finesse is off 9 out of 10 times.....


Yehudit Hasin

"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
0

#13 User is offline   JLOGIC 

  • 2011 Poster of The Year winner
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,002
  • Joined: 2010-July-08
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2011-April-28, 01:49

View PostYu18772, on 2011-April-27, 21:25, said:

tnx for replies - just for the record I passed, we scored 200 (sub optimal declarer play). Pard had xxxx, Kxxxx, x, Axx.......Posted Image dummy had Q♣ and 9x♦.


Tell partner to overcall?
blogging at http://www.justinlall.com
0

#14 User is offline   han 

  • Under bidder
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,797
  • Joined: 2004-July-25
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Amsterdam, the Netherlands

Posted 2011-April-28, 11:01

7 points vulnerable, you know very well that you can't bid with that JLOGIC!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
0

#15 User is offline   phil_20686 

  • Scotland
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,754
  • Joined: 2008-August-22
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Scotland

Posted 2011-April-28, 11:52

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-April-28, 01:49, said:

Tell partner to overcall?



View Posthan, on 2011-April-28, 11:01, said:

7 points vulnerable, you know very well that you can't bid with that JLOGIC!


I don't know which of you are being sarcastic here.
The physics is theoretical, but the fun is real. - Sheldon Cooper
0

#16 User is offline   han 

  • Under bidder
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,797
  • Joined: 2004-July-25
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Amsterdam, the Netherlands

Posted 2011-April-28, 14:00

I was.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
0

#17 User is offline   Phil 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,092
  • Joined: 2008-December-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Texas, USA
  • Interests:Mountain Biking

Posted 2011-April-28, 15:50

View PostYu18772, on 2011-April-27, 21:25, said:

tnx for replies - just for the record I passed, we scored 200 (sub optimal declarer play). Pard had xxxx, Kxxxx, x, Axx.......Posted Image dummy had Q♣ and 9x♦.


10 tricks in spades looks far off with this. +200 doesn't look too bad.

I wouldn't overcall red if my hearts were truly K-"x-x-x-x", but thats just me.
Hi y'all!

Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
0

#18 User is offline   Foxx 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 338
  • Joined: 2003-February-15
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:La Jolla, California
  • Interests:Being quick, brown, and foxy; Jumping over lazy dogs

Posted 2011-April-28, 16:31

This is why I had such a bad feeling about passing 1♦ out. What is LHO's lead against 4♠ going to be? A club away from the K-J? Unlikely. A trump? I'll win the ♠A, force out the ♥A, win the second spade with the ♠K, throw a club on the ♥K and scramble the rest of the hand like a mu'erf'er. If LHO led the ♦K, I could win the ♦A, drive out the ♥A, throw a club on a heart, draw trump and toss the ♦J onto the table for overtricks. I'd probably even win a beer.

View PostPhil, on 2011-April-28, 15:50, said:

I wouldn't overcall red if my hearts were truly K-"x-x-x-x", but thats just me.


We agree here. My requirements for a 1-level overcall are 8 HCP and K-10-x-x-x.
0

#19 User is offline   JLOGIC 

  • 2011 Poster of The Year winner
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,002
  • Joined: 2010-July-08
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2011-April-29, 01:24

View Postphil_20686, on 2011-April-28, 11:52, said:

I don't know which of you are being sarcastic here.


I wasn't and han was. However, we are pretty much 2 of the most aggressive 1 level overcallers in the world so it probably doesn't mean much.
blogging at http://www.justinlall.com
0

#20 User is offline   han 

  • Under bidder
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,797
  • Joined: 2004-July-25
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Amsterdam, the Netherlands

Posted 2011-April-29, 07:37

You are exaggerating, 1H is Standard Dutch.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
0
  • 2 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users