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Posted 2010-November-22, 17:43
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Posted 2010-November-22, 18:05
If "kinda" means "sort of" or almost, then I agree and would pass. After all, pd his short in spades and hasn't said anything. If "kinda" means "trivial", as in kindergarten, then I disagree; the problem is not trivial.
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Posted 2010-November-22, 18:10
the hog, on 2010-November-22, 18:05, said:
If "kinda" means "sort of" or almost, then I agree and would pass. After all, pd his short in spades and hasn't said anything. If "kinda" means "trivial", as in kindergarten, then I disagree; the problem is not trivial.
He could easily have ♠x ♥xxxx ♦xxxx ♣xxxx so 4♣ is easy- he having 2 spades is just as likely.
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Posted 2010-November-22, 18:15
I always pass these hands, but am beginning to think that I am too conservative.
I have to admit that at the table I would almost certainly pass. i hate going for numbers more than I hate missing games that require very aggressive bidding.
Having said that, I recognize that we may be missing the boat here....I mean, why can't partner hold a stiff spade and 4 little clubs?
I have a lot of respect for 4♣....please tell me that LHO held AKQx xxx xx AJ109 and whacked it
I have to admit that at the table I would almost certainly pass. i hate going for numbers more than I hate missing games that require very aggressive bidding.
Having said that, I recognize that we may be missing the boat here....I mean, why can't partner hold a stiff spade and 4 little clubs?
I have a lot of respect for 4♣....please tell me that LHO held AKQx xxx xx AJ109 and whacked it
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Posted 2010-November-22, 18:50
pass.. I don't have a bid so I just don't bid.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-November-22, 19:07
4♣, sometimes I have extra length for this bid, sometimes I have extra strength. This could work very poorly.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2010-November-22, 19:49
Partner did not negX, nor 2D,2H, nor C-raise
(of course after 1S overcall, he may not know real
clubs here fits 3-support clubs).
I still hope for 3xclubs and 0-1xS -- I get a S-ruff.
Do I have DSIP? I try that. No. 4C.
(of course after 1S overcall, he may not know real
clubs here fits 3-support clubs).
I still hope for 3xclubs and 0-1xS -- I get a S-ruff.
Do I have DSIP? I try that. No. 4C.
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Posted 2010-November-22, 19:55
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Posted 2010-November-22, 23:37
Easy 4♣. By the way, partner will have a void spade more often than two.
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Posted 2010-November-23, 00:38
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When I convert 4♥ to 5♣ partner will know diamonds is a possible denomination.
When I convert 4♥ to 5♣ partner will know diamonds is a possible denomination.
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Posted 2010-November-23, 00:40
4♣ -- hopefully it won't get clubbed 
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Posted 2010-November-23, 01:55
A (hopefully) quick 4♣.
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Posted 2010-November-23, 03:46
I'd pass
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Posted 2010-November-23, 03:59
4♣ but I don't like it too much. I like OleBergs suggestion in that it gets diamonds to the picture cause I'm mostly worried partner might have x xxx xxxxxxx xx or similar. However I'm not ready to go to the 5 lvl in the likely event partner tries for the game.
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Posted 2010-November-23, 04:02
4♣, but I consider 4♦ an option. Double might have to convert five hearts into 6 clubs
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Posted 2010-November-23, 04:07
Fluffy, on 2010-November-23, 04:02, said:
4♣, but I consider 4♦ an option. Double might have to convert five hearts into 6 clubs
Which might make.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2010-November-23, 07:11
4♣ stands out. I do not feel stuck here, because 4♣ describes what I have, a jump rebid in ♣ if partner had responded. I do not understand how one can pass. Is partner supposed to balance vulnerable with ♠x,♥xxx,♦xxxxx,♣Axxx ?
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Posted 2010-November-23, 07:53
rhm, on 2010-November-23, 07:11, said:
4♣ stands out. I do not feel stuck here, because 4♣ describes what I have, a jump rebid in ♣ if partner had responded. I do not understand how one can pass. Is partner supposed to balance vulnerable with ♠x,♥xxx,♦xxxxx,♣Axxx ?
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Is he supposed to raise 4♣ to 6♣?
(Mind you, I agree that pass is incomprehensible. I believe in my double, but consider 4♣ a reasonable alternative.)
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2010-November-23, 08:51
OleBerg, on 2010-November-23, 07:53, said:
Is he supposed to raise 4♣ to 6♣?
(Mind you, I agree that pass is incomprehensible. I believe in my double, but consider 4♣ a reasonable alternative.)
(Mind you, I agree that pass is incomprehensible. I believe in my double, but consider 4♣ a reasonable alternative.)
No, but I would expect to get raised to 5♣. I admit freely I do not reach all good slams and at the same time avoid the bad ones.
I do work on it though
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Posted 2010-November-23, 10:15
presummably partner is holding
♠2
♥65432
♦432
♣9862
if you pass and
♠32
♥65432
♦65432
♣2
if you bid
♠2
♥65432
♦432
♣9862
if you pass and
♠32
♥65432
♦65432
♣2
if you bid
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