[TWO4BRIDGE]

♠ A Q 10 8 5 2 ( Edit: A Q... not A K as I originally showed )
♥ K
♦ K 7
♣ K J 9 6

2/1 context

You open 1S.. partner responds a forcing 1NT! .
Instead of rebidding 2S, you rebid 2C planning on rebidding Spades again
to show the stronger 6 4 6 bidding over the 6 6 4 .

1S - 1NT!
2C - 3Hjump
??

What now?

[dake50]

How did partner's hand improve?
Not a 2H:GF 2/1, but now a jump 3H?
He always intended to support spades (3-support limit)
and likes C-fit with S-fit enough to advance Q 3H (or splinter 3H).
3S as planned to show the good suit.

[mikeh]

I assume that partner is showing an invitational hand with 6+ hearts.

One of the basic rules of bidding is that one quits early with misfits. So you would usually pass 3♥ with short hearts and a weak hand.

The corollary to this rule is that a bid by you shows extras. Furthermore, a bid of 3♠ must show 6...and partner can work out (ieven if he is ignorant of the rule mentioned above) that you have to have extras snce you chose to rebid 2♣ rather than 2♠...thus, as you planned, you are showing a good 6=4 or so. Note, this is not perfect.....with a minimum 6-5 blacks you might well choose to bid 2♣ anyway. But 6-5 hands arise far less frequently than do 6-4 hands.

All of this is by way of saying that 3♠ shows most of your hand....but I wouldn't make that call. My stiff heart K is good enough for me to raise to 4♥.

Put another way, I know that my hand will provide tricks for partner in hearts....I don't know that his hand will provide a lot of help to me in spades....I would be concerned that I may not be able to enjoy his hearts in spades, but am more confident he can enjoy my spades in hearts.

[mike777]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2010-November-26, 09:18, said:

♠ A K 10 8 5 2
♥ K
♦ K 7
♣ K J 9 6

2/1 context

You open 1S.. partner responds a forcing 1NT! .
Instead of rebidding 2S, you rebid 2C planning on rebidding Spades again
to show the stronger 6 4 6 bidding over the 6 6 4 .

1S - 1NT!
2C - 3Hjump
??

What now?

4h easy wtp?

[han]

I want somebody to post that 4D is choice of games.

[mikeh]

han, on 2010-November-26, 14:03, said:

I want somebody to post that 4D is choice of games.

4♦, choice of games. wtp?

[TWO4BRIDGE]

I was on the same wavelength as the "two Mikes" ... and I raised 3H to 4H.

It was down 3 ( although I think partner could have done a little better but still not make it.

However, 4S made 11 or 12 tricks ( also 3NT made 9 or 10 tricks ).

Here was the full hand ( MP scoring )... note the change in West's Spades: it is A Q... not A K ....
( I changed the original post too ):

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I was thinking too that partner only held a stiff Sp and NOT the ♠ K, but I thought he would have at least 6 Hts ( although the "books" say "usually" 6 cards. So, as Mike said, I thought my ♥K would be better for that suit as trump.
As it turned out, with ♠ as trump, the Ht suit provided discards for the losing Diams.

Another thing, with West as declarer, his K's are protected on lead.

[han]

Bart and Gazilli are great conventions and hold tight to the spade king.

[Phil]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2010-November-26, 15:04, said:

It was down 3 ( although I think partner could have done a little better but still not make it.

Hm?

Bart / Gazzilli work well here. So does not jumping into a five card suit.

[mike777]

Phil, on 2010-November-26, 15:17, said:

Hm?

Bart / Gazzilli work well here. So does not jumping into a five card suit.

ditto

[the hog]

4H looks cold to me anyway. Though I agree, jumping into a 5 card suit is silly.

[Fluffy]

Agree with Ron, althou 11 tricks are avaible on a diamond lead, I think 10 is quite normal.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

Fluffy, on 2010-November-27, 00:10, said:

Agree with Ron, althou 11 tricks are avaible on a diamond lead, I think 10 is quite normal.

There was a Diam lead : 2 7 A 3
Next a small Ht shift: K winning on board.

Upon re-examination of the patient in 4H, it appears that 10 tricks are there with the ♠-finesse working and the ♣Q dropping.

[the hog]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2010-November-27, 04:00, said:

There was a Diam lead : 2 7 A 3
Next a small Ht shift: K winning on board.

Upon re-examination of the patient in 4H, it appears that 10 tricks are there with the ♠-finesse working and the ♣Q dropping.

11

C to the A,
AQ of H
S hook, Ace of S ditching a D, S ruff
C to K
another S ditching last D
Ron Cs - opps get 1H and 1 diamond.
Easy!

How on earth did your partner go 3 off?

[dake50]

Which hands go 2H immediately over 1S? GF 5+H?

Which hands go 1NT then 2H over 1S? Invite 5xH?

Which hands go immediate 3H over 1S? Invite 6+H?
Or preempt the other major by bidding the other major -- why preemptive 3H over 1S is my point.

Those answers leave the hands that 1NT then 3H over 1S.