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#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2009-February-02, 11:57

♠Void
♥Jxxx
♦AKTxxxx
♣Tx

Partner opens 2♣ FG. You play Kick back Key Card for minors and it goes:

2♣ - 2♥ - 3♦ - Pa
3♥ - Pa - 4♦ - Pa
4♥ - Pa - 5♥ - Pa
6♥ - Pa - ???

Opponents alert 2♥ as natural (you're on a side of the curtain with the 2♥ bidder). What's your bid?

After making up your mind (be honest) read this:
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View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


View Postrbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2009-February-02, 12:25

Smells like a psyche. I regretfully pass and apologise if the hands a spread. I just don't think you can bid 7 with any real confidence (while its very likely, partner didn't explicitly show the ♣A).

I haven't thought about this until now, but I suppose opener could use 5♠,5NT and 6♣ as grand slam probes leaving 6♥ as signoff (6♦ may be taken as choice of slams seeing as you've bid them twice)
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Posted 2009-February-02, 13:09

Hanoi5, on Feb 2 2009, 12:57 PM, said:

♠Void
♥Jxxx
♦AKTxxxx
♣Tx

Partner opens 2♣ FG. You play Kick back Key Card for minors and it goes:

2♣ - 2♥ - 3♦ - Pa
3♥ - Pa - 4♦ - Pa
4♥ - Pa - 5♥ - Pa
6♥ - Pa - ???

Opponents alert 2♥ as natural (you're on a side of the curtain with the 2♥ bidder). What's your bid?

After making up your mind (be honest) read this:
Spoiler

If I am playing kickback then 4h is rkc for Diamonds and my response is not 5h.
If opener really has hearts then she has to bid differently.
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Posted 2009-February-02, 13:15

Yeah. 5♥ would show 2 KC and a void.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-February-02, 13:19

Hanoi5, on Feb 2 2009, 02:15 PM, said:

Yeah. 5♥ would show 2 KC and a void.

I strongly disagree but in any case I do not show a void on this auction, in fact I rarely show a void unless I am certain it is "useful" over kickback.
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Posted 2009-February-02, 13:22

Should it take us three heart calls from pard to figure out the psyche?

I think I would have splintered at some point.

Having done none of that I would bid 7♥ now.

Edit: Just saw the comments about Kickback. Thats a serious LOL.
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Posted 2009-February-02, 14:01

I bid 5♠ last round. 4♥ is clearly natural (I like to agree 3♥ is natural.)
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Posted 2009-February-02, 14:12

This is weird. Not so much because of the possibility for a psychic but more because partner is not exposing the psychic well. I think my 5♥ bid was void-indicating, right? But, my void is in the "wrong suit." And then, what is 6♥? As an asking bid in diamonds, it makes no sense.

So, I think partner was OK living in diamonds but now is offering a grand in hearts or diamonds, depending on where my void is. 7♥ for me.
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Posted 2009-February-02, 14:21

I think there's a real good chance PD has ♥ on this auction and if he wanted to invite a grand he has other calls possible than 6♥.

I pass being unsure whether my void is useful and certainly having bid my ♦ enough.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 03:41

Obviously it's nice to have discussed these sequences. I play 3H as natural, and I would have splintered over it (in fact, I might have splintered over it with 5S if I really felt in a dramatic mood and was confident partner would understand).

I have a general agreement after opening 2C: "cue bids" of the opponents' suit(s) are natural unless you have previously rejected a chance to penalise the suit.
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