Fred made a nice example of a contested auction:
(1 ♠) 2 ♥ (pass)
You look at around 10HCps, no spade stopper, no heart fit.
So a really everyday problem.
What I never understand is, why is it still so common to use 2 ♠ here as the good heart raise?
My reg. partner an I basically switched 2 NT and 2 ♠ so that you use 2 NT as the invite and 2 spade for this hand. (I.E. showing inviting or bigger strength but denying a stopper, a one suiter and a fit in hearts.
The downside is that you lose the natural 2 NT bid. But this is something we lost in more then one situation, so I am not sure if this lost is so big.
After all, we sit in front of the spades, so it needs quite a special hand for us to wish to play exactly 2 NT.
And as always it comes down to frequency and the imps you lose or win with the right bidding tool.
I think that hands with no fit, no clear direction and no great stopper are much more often dealt then hands with around 11 HCPS, no fit, no onesuiter and a good spade-stopper (Sitting in front of the spades).
So, is the cue raise still so widely used because it is common and traditional or are there more reasons, which I fail to see?
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#1
Posted 2009-February-04, 06:05
Kind Regards
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
#2
Posted 2009-February-04, 06:57
The useful space principle comes to mind. The hearts raise is the call that needs the least bidding space for further investigation, while 2♠ is the call that leaves the most bidding space. So it is inefficient to allocate the 2♠ bid to the raise. Using 2NT is a step in the right direction, but using 3♦ would probably be even better.
The world would be such a happy place, if only everyone played Acol :) --- TramTicket
#3
Posted 2009-February-04, 07:16
Just play Transfer advances.
http://homepage.mac.com/bridgeguys/pdf/Smi...ferAdvances.pdf
http://franksbridgesystem.com/182.html
You don't lose your natural 2NT.
http://homepage.mac.com/bridgeguys/pdf/Smi...ferAdvances.pdf
http://franksbridgesystem.com/182.html
You don't lose your natural 2NT.
#4
Posted 2009-February-04, 08:08
I play new suits by advancer are not forcing here and 2S = good heart raise (usually) OR a good hand without clear direction. Have no idea if that's more standard than new suits are forcing and 2S = good heart raise.
Am not familiar with other methods for handling this problem area. Will think about that 2N idea and read up on transfer advances.
Am not familiar with other methods for handling this problem area. Will think about that 2N idea and read up on transfer advances.
If you lose all hope, you can always find it again -- Richard Ford in The Sportswriter
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