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#1 User is offline   kenrexford 

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Posted 2008-November-06, 22:44

Red on White.

As dealer, you hold ♠AJxxx ♥x ♦KJx ♣A9xx

1♠-X-P-2♦
P-2♥-P-3♣
P-P-3♥-P
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Posted 2008-November-06, 22:50

4D WTP.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-November-06, 23:17

I must miss this one I would have tried 4h.
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Posted 2008-November-06, 23:52

If it wasn't ken I would assume the auction was entered incorrectly.

1S X p 2D
p 2H p 3C
p p 3H p

So,

Partner passed after 1S X, then didnt bid over 2H either.
LHO has doubled and bid hearts, showing a strong hand with hearts
RHO has bid a new suit and made a forcing bid opposite partner's strong hand
LHO has passed RHOs forcing bid
Partner has reopened with 3H?
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Posted 2008-November-07, 00:22

I agree how can lho show huge hand with hearts and rho show forcing hand with minors and now lho pass..... but ...oh well.......I do not think i can pass 3h.
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Posted 2008-November-07, 00:50

partner thought pass was 0-7 or 13+??
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Posted 2008-November-07, 04:38

I put down the dummy and tell partner not to make stupid bids.
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Posted 2008-November-07, 06:54

I'm figuring partner has 7+ hearts and a weak hand. He was trap passing over 2♥, but is now saving over the minor suit contract.

I pass.

Of course, it's also possible that partner is being a bit irrational. :)
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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rule number 1 in efficient forum reading:
hanp does not always mean literally what he writes.
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Posted 2008-November-07, 07:15

rogerclee, on Nov 7 2008, 12:52 AM, said:

If it wasn't ken I would assume the auction was entered incorrectly.

1S X p 2D
p 2H p 3C
p p 3H p

So,

Partner passed after 1S X, then didnt bid over 2H either.
LHO has doubled and bid hearts, showing a strong hand with hearts
RHO has bid a new suit and made a forcing bid opposite partner's strong hand
LHO has passed RHOs forcing bid
Partner has reopened with 3H?

Yes. This was the actual auction. No alerts. Everyone playing normal systems and normal stuff. I opened 1♠ and heard this unfold.
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Posted 2008-November-07, 07:19

P has a weak hand with seven hearts. Pass.

Any other explanation would be even more absurd.
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Posted 2008-November-07, 07:37

Spoiler

"Gibberish in, gibberish out. A trial judge, three sets of lawyers, and now three appellate judges cannot agree on what this law means. And we ask police officers, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and citizens to enforce or abide by it? The legislature continues to write unreadable statutes. Gibberish should not be enforced as law."

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Posted 2008-November-07, 09:10

rogerclee, on Nov 7 2008, 12:52 AM, said:

LHO has doubled and bid hearts, showing a strong hand with hearts
RHO has bid a new suit and made a forcing bid opposite partner's strong hand

I susepect they play that 2♥ says '♥+♣ or strong with ♥', and 3♣ says 'If you have the former, I wish to play in 3♣'.

It seems reasonable to me as an ELC variant.
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Posted 2008-November-07, 12:32

Last hand, thanks all I have to go.
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Posted 2008-November-07, 13:22

kenrexford, on Nov 7 2008, 08:15 AM, said:

Everyone playing normal systems and normal stuff.

I disagree.

Anyway, if my partner really does this at the table and the director makes me finish the hand, I bid 3♠.
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Posted 2008-November-07, 14:59

jdonn, on Nov 7 2008, 02:22 PM, said:

kenrexford, on Nov 7 2008, 08:15 AM, said:

Everyone playing normal systems and normal stuff.

I disagree.

Anyway, if my partner really does this at the table and the director makes me finish the hand, I bid 3♠.

Well, true. LOL I suppose "normal stuff for local club games" is a better description of what was apparently going on.

I ended up bidding 3NT, because that contract makes more tricks than it should more often than any other contract.

The play was cool. I got a strange lead of the spade King, ducked. LHO thought for a minute and then switched to a diamond-9-10-K. I then stole a heart trick with the Jack. So far, so good. Clear the diamond: small-small-Jack-club. Diamond to RHO's Ace, LHO showing out and ditching another club.

This is getting somewhat interesting, anyway. RHO returned to spades, ducked by both me and my LHO. I won the second one, as I figured that LHO held 5-4-1-3 shape and would now drop his J or 10 of clubs. When I sent a club toward dummy, he played the Jack, won in dummy. When I cashed the remaining diamond (ditching a spade) and played a club, LHO rose with the 10, ducked. He cashed the 13th diamond (pitch another spade) and had to lead away from his Qx of clubs into my A9, for down one. 4♥ had gone down one at the two tables reporting at this point.

So, as you can see now, the sick layout was:


Scoring: MP


Yep. Probably a very common sequence...
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