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The Ultimate Duel

Poll: who's faster? (29 member(s) have cast votes)

who's faster?

  1. Bear (24 votes [82.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 82.76%

  2. Rabbit (5 votes [17.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.24%

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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2007-October-29, 07:52

Self-explanatory. Google and other such sources is verboten.

edit: ok not so self-explanatory. top speed on plane ground, straight line, maximum traction.
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Posted 2007-October-29, 08:25

I voted for bear.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-October-29, 08:35

Comment 1: In many cases, these types of races are very much a function of distance. The classic example being the distinction between sprint predators and endurance predators. As I recall, horses are faster than humans over short to medium distances. However, in a long distance race, humans can run horses into the dirt. (As I recall, the human's typically win anything over 40 days or so)

Comment 2: I have no idea whether bears are faster than rabbits, but I do know that they are damn fast
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Posted 2007-October-29, 08:38

I assumed Csaba meant top speed, seems a natural interpretation.

I googled it so won't comment anymore.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-October-29, 08:43

hrothgar, on Oct 29 2007, 03:35 PM, said:

As I recall, horses are faster than humans over short to medium distances. However, in a long distance race, humans can run horses into the dirt. (As I recall, the human's typically win anything over 40 days or so)

According to Terry Pratchett, humans can out-run horses over very short distances from a standing start, at least on Discworld.
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Posted 2007-October-29, 10:28

FrancesHinden, on Oct 29 2007, 09:43 AM, said:

hrothgar, on Oct 29 2007, 03:35 PM, said:

As I recall, horses are faster than humans over short to medium distances.  However, in a long distance race, humans can run horses into the dirt.  (As I recall, the human's typically win anything over 40 days or so)

According to Terry Pratchett, humans can out-run horses over very short distances from a standing start, at least on Discworld.

Anything over 24 hours an endurance runner can beat a man on a horse. I have a hard time believing that a mustang without a person a top can't beat a human, over any distance.
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Posted 2007-October-29, 11:00

Before the rabbit starts running the bear grabs him with his claws... Then he has all the time in the world.

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Posted 2007-October-29, 11:01

jtfanclub, on Oct 29 2007, 11:28 AM, said:

Anything over 24 hours an endurance runner can beat a man on a horse. I have a hard time believing that a mustang without a person a top can't beat a human, over any distance.

Perhaps a more interesting question is "why would he want to?" :)
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Posted 2007-October-29, 11:14

How should a rabbit beat a bear when a hare can't beat a hedgehog?
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Posted 2007-October-29, 11:37

hmm have no idea. I voted rabbits because they are such cute creatures :) Haven't really seen either run irl before..so I don't know.
Besides, my chinese zodiac is rabbit so no way i'm voting for bear :P

Gerben: lol the rabbit will start fibonacci-ing it up (somehow) before the bear gets its momentum up for the slash, and will start nibbling the bear left right and centre.
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Posted 2007-October-29, 11:47

I'm pretty sure the bear would win.

As far as the horse vs human debate - I think a fast person would beat a horse over a maximum of 50 yards, but the horse would have a huge advantage for 1-5 miles (possibly further). The human is a big favorite over very long distances.

I'm a rabbit on the Chinese Zodiac too, but I don't see a reason to be biased :)
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Posted 2007-October-29, 12:03

I think it depends on the kind of bear.

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Posted 2007-October-29, 14:57

So Csaba, what's the answer?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-October-29, 16:06

I voted for a rabbit, Bear was too obvious
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Posted 2007-October-29, 16:26

An African or a European bear? I don't know! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGH!
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Posted 2007-October-29, 22:26

There is no way that a horse carrying a man could possibly be slower, no matter how far the distance or the number of days involved, than a man carrying a horse.
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Posted 2007-October-29, 23:34

I'm still to find a perfectly 100% reliable source, but wikipedia claims a bear can have about 35 MPH and a European hare can speed up to 45mph! Elsewhere, in a common table, European hare=35mph, Grizzly bear=30mph. I was very sure and scornful of my classmates who thought a rabbit would be quicker "haha, kindergarten stereotypes". Now I never want to go to school again :)

BTW, almost 100% of girls thought a rabbit was quicker and all but one of the guys were supporting the bear.
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Posted 2007-October-30, 07:49

Infoplease claims 35 mph (56 km/h, 15.6 m/s) for a domestic rabbit and 30 mph (48 km/t, 13.4 m/s) for a grizzly.
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Posted 2007-October-30, 08:53

woohoo! :D
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Posted 2007-October-30, 08:56

A hare is not a rabbit imo.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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