[rona_]

sceptic, on Dec 15 2006, 10:24 PM, said:

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Pretty unusual, I think. The directors who appear to get thanked the most are the ones who are a bit obnoxious in tournament chat and who have tournament chat open to the players, I would guess because the more talkative players are encouraged to speak. It is not a net gain for those directors, because excessive tournament chat also tends to be annoying to many people. I think most people really do appreciate a well-run tournament, although they may not thank the director.

What an arrogant statement, I get thanked for running them ocasionally, the people that do that seem genuine and why the hell do all you experts assume that everyone who plays bridge wants to stick strictly to the rules


I announce that I am not a proffesional director and that most people playing are more qualified than me to make rulings, so do not expect any

and you know what, there is a huge demand for a quick no hassle fun tournement they are usually easy to direct and some times fun

I gather you are well respected as a TD, no idea why with your attitude, but then bridge does seem to suffer from a group of people that do their best and make decisions and another group of people that do nothing but critise and whinge, it would be interesting to do a poll and see where you saw yourself

Golfacer responded to the questions that Cascade asked in the original post. You however went completely off-topic and insulted golfacer. Do you actually read all the posts and try to understand what is going on before you respond, or is it normal for you to jump in head first? Why didn't you have a go at Cascade too.. Golfacer runs free tournaments and also spent a lot of time recently preparing a lecture in order to help TDs improve, yet all you can do is insult him? Where on earth are you coming from.

[sceptic]

Rona, golferace is quite capable of defending himself and yes I did read it and I have no issue with Wayne, he is probably one of the people I most respect on BBO

I never went off topic, unless commenting on a comment is off topic in that case we are all guilty of that

I did read the post and yes I do tend to say what I think and yes I do at times jump in head first, but that is not such a bad quality and I did not jump in here, so I can not blame rashness for what I wrote

you are right I did insult him and I genuinely apologised for that, I have no issue expressing myself verbaly, I do genuinely struggle when I have to write something down, all I really wanted to say was that I considered that statement to be arrogant and I am sure that some of those would be offended by his opinion of them

[barmar]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Many people treat online bridge very casually. Even outside bridge, people treat online life differently from real life, and they will do things online that they would rarely do f2f ("flame wars" in online forums are an example -- people will argue online about things that they'd never argue about in ordinary conversation).

The casual attitude is probably exacerbated by making the tournament free. It's pretty well known that people value things that they have to pay for more than free things. If you give away free tickets to an event, you're like to have lots of no-shows and people leaving partway through; but if you charge a small fee, most will show up and they'll be reluctant to leave.

[bambi1]

I have been directing FREE online tournaments on BBO for over 4 years now. I keep telling myself once it ceases to be enjoyable I will no longer take it on........so far I am still directing DEER pard three times a week.

I must say I have very few problems. It may be the time of the tournament (9:30 EDT). Or it may be my "TDeering!"

I do not allow tournament chat and yet I am always thanked by many for running the touranment. (and as far as I know I am NOT obnoxious :-)

Some of the excuses players give for leaving make my day!! You gotta laugh!
(they are black listed right away)

I am a no nonsense TD, who follows the Laws of ACBL with etiquette and "finesse", and have a good time doing this.

I also think it is VERY important to respect the players. If there is a problem that occurs I try and solve it at the time, or volunteer to meet the player in a chat room after the tournament is over.

Hopefully DEER pard will continue to be a part of FREE tournaments on BBO.

I am always open to asisst any TD if they need help in any way, shape or form.

Happy Holidays to all.


bambi1

[helene_t]

I directed my first tourney last saturday. I anounced in the tourney description that it was my first tourney so please bare with me. Nevertheless, several people asked me to increase the number of entries (I set it to 16 players, 6 boards, two rounds).

One player thanking me (it was Gerben42 from this forum). Five subbings. One player blacklisted - he said he would report me to abuse for kicking him out after he had made rude remarks to his p twice.

Yesterday, I tried again and it was totally different. Four people thanking me, none of which I knew beforehand. Three subbings, otherwise no issues.

Differences in approach? I was somewhat more talkative yesterday, thanking each arriving sub in tourney chat and thanking everybody for having made it such a smooth tourney at the end. Also, I wrote this tourney description:
- Be nice to p, opps and even to the TD. If you have an issue with somebody, don't argue but take a breath. If you REALLY have to, call me.

[Blofeld]

I think both of Richard's ideas for reducing dropouts are good.

I particularly like the permanent floating individual -- rather like the MBC but with different partner and opponents each round. I think this would be very popular.

[zielona]

Much's been said about the sins of free tourney players and how to prevent them. But what about TD's? Some critisism of free tourney TDs was recorded along the way, mostly as "blanket" accusations of low standard, inability to adjust scores etc. To improve the image of free TD's, can we stop giving TD rights to just anyone?

Was playing today in a free tourney that was cancelled after the first or second round. TD made the following announcement and just cancelled 2 seconds later:

>>>SORRY<<< This Tournaments must be Cancel, 'cause i must playing TM >>>!H!H!H THANKS !H!H!H<<<

TD then went to play in the Main Bridge Club. May be there were too many absentees because the tourney started 20 minutes before the announced time??? I dunno.

Why do we expect responsible attitude from players? If Td can quit, so can players, right?

Merry Christmas everyone )))♥

[jillybean]

zielona, on Dec 25 2006, 04:29 AM, said:

Why do we expect responsible attitude from players? If Td can quit, so can players, right?

This comment takes the cake I had to chose my wording carefuly else have the thread moved to the 'watercooler'

BBO can and do remove TD rights, send a complaint to abuse.
As others have said, free TD’s come under a lot of unjustified criticismn - if you don’t like the way the game is run, don’t play there.

The problem is not the TD’s, the problem is the inability to run open, free tournaments and keep out these players who are rude and abusive or simply leave after a bad board.