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#1 User is offline   gnasher 

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Posted 2012-November-08, 02:11



2D = 18-20 balanced
3D = transfer (unfortunately your methods don't allow you to transfer at the four-level)


... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-November-08, 04:11

I would lead a club.
Usually your lead questions are quite tricky and I find the club sticks out so far that it must be wrong.
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Posted 2012-November-08, 04:13

Club and change methods so I can transfer to the 4 level lol. Guess I'm risking rho having a black two suiter and this being really bad but feels so right to lead my doubleton
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Posted 2012-November-08, 05:18

 JLOGIC, on 2012-November-08, 04:13, said:

Club and change methods so I can transfer to the 4 level lol.


On this hand you might go for -800 in 4, as our opponents did.
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Posted 2012-November-08, 05:23

a trump

club could work but I do not think that it is obvious

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Posted 2012-November-08, 09:16

 Codo, on 2012-November-08, 04:11, said:

Usually your lead questions are quite tricky and I find the club sticks out so far that it must be wrong.

Usually my lead questions (and my bidding questions, and some of my play questions) are just hands where I didn't know what to do. If we get a solid vote for one particular choice, that's fine with me - at least I'll know what I should have done.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-November-08, 09:22

 gnasher, on 2012-November-08, 02:11, said:

unfortunately your methods don't allow you to transfer at the four-level

I think you mean fortunately. And I know the hand, but would lead a trump.
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Posted 2012-November-08, 11:57

I keep flipping between a trump and a club, but eventually my distaste for trump leads would probably win.
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Posted 2012-November-09, 02:47

obviously not a heart, since if we go -800 dummy must have good hearts
obviously not a trump because the british seem to suggest it doesn't work

seriously guys, could you let the problems at least a couple of days live before spoiling them? or maybe use spoiler tags?
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Posted 2012-November-09, 09:30

Q may not set up a trick but least likely to give away a trick.
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Posted 2012-November-09, 19:32

[quote name='Fluffy' timestamp='1352450850' post='681039'

seriously guys, could you let the problems at least a couple of days live before spoiling them? or maybe use spoiler tags?
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Posted 2012-November-12, 03:30

I would lead a trump. Club seems reasonable too.
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Posted 2012-November-12, 03:59

we opened and raised diamonds shouldn't we lead our suit? :P
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Posted 2012-November-12, 08:55

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Posted 2012-November-13, 02:33

This is the full hand:

I led a club, but that let it through: club lead ruffed, A, heart ruff, club ruff, heart ruffed and overruffed, K to the ace, spade back to the queen, endplaying East.

I think the club lead is a mistake. They've bid to 4 under their own steam, in at best a 9-card fit, when we might have beeing stopping in 3. They must have some shape to justify that. In particular LHO, a passed hand, competed to 3, so he's likely to have a shortage.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-November-13, 07:06

 gnasher, on 2012-November-13, 02:33, said:

This is the full hand:

I led a club, but that let it through: club lead ruffed, A, heart ruff, club ruff, heart ruffed and overruffed, K to the ace, spade back to the queen, endplaying East.

I think the club lead is a mistake. They've bid to 4 under their own steam, in at best a 9-card fit, when we might have beeing stopping in 3. They must have some shape to justify that. In particular LHO, a passed hand, competed to 3, so he's likely to have a shortage.

I agree. A club is a poor choice. A trump is "obvious".

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